Comments on: Thanks for all the comments – one thing though… http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/ You have the power to choose Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:36:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9-rare hourly 1 By: Pauleco http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-645 Pauleco Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:16:48 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-645 Hiya Kate, Sadly there are ways to cheat those types of systems (which people do on Guardian's CiF all the time). It involves a decent browser like Firefox, plus a plug-in that allows you to disable cookies at will... I wouldn't like to censor based on that kind of system for that reason... However - I think more and more comment systems will be tied to Facebook/Twitter profiles to discourage anonymous rants/trolling/flame-baiting... Cheers Paul Hiya Kate,

Sadly there are ways to cheat those types of systems (which people do on Guardian’s CiF all the time). It involves a decent browser like Firefox, plus a plug-in that allows you to disable cookies at will…

I wouldn’t like to censor based on that kind of system for that reason…

However – I think more and more comment systems will be tied to Facebook/Twitter profiles to discourage anonymous rants/trolling/flame-baiting…

Cheers
Paul

]]> By: Kate http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-643 Kate Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:31:28 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-643 How about having a ratings system for comments like the one on YouTube. Comments with -6 votes or more could then be hidden and it would show how many people really agree with what's being said. How about having a ratings system for comments like the one on YouTube. Comments with -6 votes or more could then be hidden and it would show how many people really agree with what’s being said.

]]> By: fifi black http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-502 fifi black Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:10:41 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-502 I think I read that this happened for a total of 5 hours, when the Spaniards happened to have a very windy day. This doesn't mean that they get 53% generally. But they have obviously used this statistic to justify their wind turbines. I think I read that this happened for a total of 5 hours, when the Spaniards happened to have a very windy day. This doesn’t mean that they get 53% generally. But they have obviously used this statistic to justify their wind turbines.

]]> By: Peter Pannier http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Peter Pannier Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:10:37 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-497 Personally, I love looking at the Nympsfield Turbine, it seems quiet too, and it's certainly a hell of a lot more aesthetically pleasing that the Coal-fired power stations I've seen (Drax, Racliffe-on-Soar, Didcot), and even more so than the Open Cast coal mine at Mrythr Tydfil. I'd like to see the anti's explain their aestheic objections to the poor sods in Merthyr who have to put up with a vision of hell on earth as a result of their refusals. I urge antis to read the article below... 50% of energy from clean wind sound like a fanciful notion? Not at all - established fact: (and Spain has much less wind resouce than the UK - we have 40% of Europe's wind resource if memory serves) "Spain's windfarms set new national record for electricity generation High winds over the weekend supplied 53% of Spain's electricity – equivalent to the power output of 11 nuclear plants http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/spain-national-record-power-windfarms best bit: "José Donoso, head of the Spanish Wind Energy Association, recalled that just five years ago critics had claimed the grid could never cope with more than 14% of its supply from wind. "We think that we can keep growing and go from the present 17GW megawatts to reach 40GW in 2020," he told El País newspaper. Windfarms have this month outperformed other forms of electricity generation in Spain, beating gas into second place and producing 80% more than the country's nuclear plants." Personally, I love looking at the Nympsfield Turbine, it seems quiet too, and it’s certainly a hell of a lot more aesthetically pleasing that the Coal-fired power stations I’ve seen (Drax, Racliffe-on-Soar, Didcot), and even more so than the Open Cast coal mine at Mrythr Tydfil. I’d like to see the anti’s explain their aestheic objections to the poor sods in Merthyr who have to put up with a vision of hell on earth as a result of their refusals.

I urge antis to read the article below… 50% of energy from clean wind sound like a fanciful notion? Not at all – established fact:
(and Spain has much less wind resouce than the UK – we have 40% of Europe’s wind resource if memory serves)

“Spain’s windfarms set new national record for electricity generation

High winds over the weekend supplied 53% of Spain’s electricity – equivalent to the power output of 11 nuclear plants

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/spain-national-record-power-windfarms

best bit: “José Donoso, head of the Spanish Wind Energy Association, recalled that just five years ago critics had claimed the grid could never cope with more than 14% of its supply from wind.

“We think that we can keep growing and go from the present 17GW megawatts to reach 40GW in 2020,” he told El País newspaper.

Windfarms have this month outperformed other forms of electricity generation in Spain, beating gas into second place and producing 80% more than the country’s nuclear plants.”

]]> By: Gerard Gilbert Vaughan http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Gerard Gilbert Vaughan Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:18:04 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-450 It depends upon what is inferred by "local wind-energy" If this is gigabtic "wind-turbines" returning a small fraction of one percent p.a. of their cost, then you make your own mind-up, but do so in the light of knowledge, not schpiel from the windfarm people. They are an economic and thereby environmental "millstone" - as in around the neck, despite, as I say, the technospiel. Domestic Turbine-Alternator Devices, are quite different in that not only can a good one return a self-sustaining percentage p.a. of its cost, but neither does it (/ do they - you can 't have too many of a GOOD thing) horrify the landscape, NOR require extra "grid" to connect to them. See my blog on "Copenhagen here we .. to see why this should be Hello to any at AStroud who remember me in the 80's and up to '96 - I lived in a wood at Elcombe and developed (by 2006 !!) a very effective TAD, which just happens to be of a domesticly convenient size As will any worthwhile TAD. See blog. It depends upon what is inferred by “local wind-energy” If this is gigabtic “wind-turbines” returning a small fraction of one percent p.a. of their cost, then you make your own mind-up, but do so in the light of knowledge, not schpiel from the windfarm people. They are an economic and thereby environmental “millstone” – as in around the neck, despite, as I say, the technospiel.
Domestic Turbine-Alternator Devices, are quite different in that not only can a good one return a self-sustaining percentage p.a. of its cost, but neither does it (/ do they – you can ‘t have too many of a GOOD thing) horrify the landscape, NOR require extra “grid” to connect to them.
See my blog on “Copenhagen here we .. to see why this should be
Hello to any at AStroud who remember me in the 80’s and up to ‘96 – I lived in a wood at Elcombe and developed (by 2006 !!) a very effective TAD, which just happens to be of a domesticly convenient size As will any worthwhile TAD. See blog.

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-409 rotator Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:01:20 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-409 In the same way you agree that no-one can argue the definition of being a neighbour, it is futile arguing that Ecotricity can be a 'good neighbour' by proposing to plonk eight unwanted and uninvited 120m monsters close to neighbouring houses and businesses. And of course 'this policy based on its name' can be criticised because it doesn't do what it says on the tin! It is inaccurate, misleading and hypocritical. In the same way you agree that no-one can argue the definition of being a neighbour, it is futile arguing that Ecotricity can be a ‘good neighbour’ by proposing to plonk eight unwanted and uninvited 120m monsters close to neighbouring houses and businesses. And of course ‘this policy based on its name’ can be criticised because it doesn’t do what it says on the tin! It is inaccurate, misleading and hypocritical.

]]> By: Simba http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-401 Simba Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:11:14 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-401 @rotator since no one could possibly argue the definition of neighbour (it is what it is) you would have to look a little more closely at what is defined as good, one option could be 'morally admirable'. But regardless of my take on the English dictionary and as previous people have mentioned, for Ecotricity, this encompasses a wide range of considerations; the most contentious (and to my mind the only arguable one) being visual impact. If a site meets all of these then, for Ecotricity, it is a 'good neighbour'. It is ridiculous to criticise this policy based solely on it's name (something about book and cover...) @rotator
since no one could possibly argue the definition of neighbour (it is what it is) you would have to look a little more closely at what is defined as good, one option could be ‘morally admirable’.
But regardless of my take on the English dictionary and as previous people have mentioned, for Ecotricity, this encompasses a wide range of considerations; the most contentious (and to my mind the only arguable one) being visual impact. If a site meets all of these then, for Ecotricity, it is a ‘good neighbour’.

It is ridiculous to criticise this policy based solely on it’s name (something about book and cover…)

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-388 rotator Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:20:09 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-388 Replying to TR's post above. You are being disingenouously selective. Of course appearance matters. It is of major importance in planning procedures. If your neighbour was to build a skyscraper in the garden next to yours and overlooked you and all around then would you regard your neighbour to be a good neighbour? I suspect not. It is ridiculous to assert only noise, falling ice and flicker should be taken into account. If any proposed turbines' neighbours are not happy then in your own words you should "walk away". It is quite clear and unambiguous. Replying to TR’s post above. You are being disingenouously selective. Of course appearance matters. It is of major importance in planning procedures. If your neighbour was to build a skyscraper in the garden next to yours and overlooked you and all around then would you regard your neighbour to be a good neighbour? I suspect not. It is ridiculous to assert only noise, falling ice and flicker should be taken into account. If any proposed turbines’ neighbours are not happy then in your own words you should “walk away”. It is quite clear and unambiguous.

]]> By: TR http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-385 TR Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:19:32 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-385 Ecotricity walking away if the turbine would fail to be a"good neighbour" is exactly right... Ecotricity takes measures to ensure that any turbine would not adversely affect anybody. Whether it's from noise, shadow flicker, ice etc. There have been planned sites for turbines that have abandoned due to this policy and it is one that ecotricity has stuck by. I hardly think not liking the way they look can be considered as being adversely affected, that is personal opinion and not one that's universally shared. Ecotricity walking away if the turbine would fail to be a”good neighbour” is exactly right… Ecotricity takes measures to ensure that any turbine would not adversely affect anybody. Whether it’s from noise, shadow flicker, ice etc. There have been planned sites for turbines that have abandoned due to this policy and it is one that ecotricity has stuck by. I hardly think not liking the way they look can be considered as being adversely affected, that is personal opinion and not one that’s universally shared.

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-382 rotator Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:28:40 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-382 Just thought it was odd that it was on the website, Xena, but then it seems to have been removed. Just thought it was odd that it was on the website, Xena, but then it seems to have been removed.

]]> By: Xena http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Xena Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:06:21 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-380 It doesn't. But you only asked about the Stroud5050 campaign in your post above.... It doesn’t. But you only asked about the Stroud5050 campaign in your post above….

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-378 rotator Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:42:43 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-378 Doesn't say anything about Berkeley Vale/Stinchcombe. Doesn’t say anything about Berkeley Vale/Stinchcombe.

]]> By: Xena http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-373 Xena Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:23:31 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-373 David Drew is backing the Stroud 5050 campaign http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/stroud/stroud5050/David-Drew-backs-Stroud-5050/article-1341399-detail/article.html David Drew is backing the Stroud 5050 campaign

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/stroud/stroud5050/David-Drew-backs-Stroud-5050/article-1341399-detail/article.html

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-361 rotator Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:35:17 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-361 That's odd. I thought I saw Ecotricity proudly claiming David Drew (Stroud MP) was in favour of Stroud5050 campaign but can't seem to find that piece on the website now. Am I looking in the wrong place? That’s odd. I thought I saw Ecotricity proudly claiming David Drew (Stroud MP) was in favour of Stroud5050 campaign but can’t seem to find that piece on the website now. Am I looking in the wrong place?

]]> By: terraverde http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-360 terraverde Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:15:50 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-360 Fifi No offense intended - I was being topical. Personally I would have avoided using all those phrases, but Prescott didn't. At least I provided a source ;) However, I don't even live in Stroud - I'll get my coat. Fifi

No offense intended – I was being topical. Personally I would have avoided using all those phrases, but Prescott didn’t. At least I provided a source ;)

However, I don’t even live in Stroud – I’ll get my coat.

]]> By: Pauleco http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-359 Pauleco Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:47:08 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-359 Hiya Fifi, Paul here, blog manager. Just to clarify, I haven't censored any comments - only replaced an unacceptable phrase with asterisks. Best regards Paul Hiya Fifi,

Paul here, blog manager. Just to clarify, I haven’t censored any comments – only replaced an unacceptable phrase with asterisks.

Best regards
Paul

]]> By: fifi black http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-358 fifi black Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:19:04 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-358 Terraverde, Your quotations from Prescott thinly disguise your "ad hominem" comments(see blog guidelines) regarding nimbys,squires and gentry.Actually we're normal people who disagree with Ecotricity and its greenwash. According to Ecotricity's rules this should be struck off by the Ecotricity censors. Or do the censors only censor what suits them? Terraverde,
Your quotations from Prescott thinly disguise your “ad hominem” comments(see blog guidelines) regarding nimbys,squires and gentry.Actually we’re normal people who disagree with Ecotricity and its greenwash. According to Ecotricity’s rules this should be struck off by the Ecotricity censors. Or do the censors only censor what suits them?

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-357 rotator Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:49:36 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-357 There are a plethora of other issues besides the ones you mention, such as proposing to build wind turbines on the very edge of an AONB and close to people's houses and businesses. You simply cannot wriggle out of the original quote (above) from the Progress Report and to do so shows you fail to understand two very simple English sentences. Any neutral reader, reading this would take it that Ecotricity would walk away if it failed to be a good neighbour. Building huge wind turbines close to people's houses in a beautiful area is not being a good neighbour to either the people or the landscape. There are a plethora of other issues besides the ones you mention, such as proposing to build wind turbines on the very edge of an AONB and close to people’s houses and businesses. You simply cannot wriggle out of the original quote (above) from the Progress Report and to do so shows you fail to understand two very simple English sentences. Any neutral reader, reading this would take it that Ecotricity would walk away if it failed to be a good neighbour. Building huge wind turbines close to people’s houses in a beautiful area is not being a good neighbour to either the people or the landscape.

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-356 rotator Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:11:15 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-356 Whoever took '2 Jags Prescott' and his ill thought out, incoherent arguments seriously? The following is much more to the point.... 'The anti-wind farm National Alliance of Wind Farm Action Groups (Nawag) said Mr Prescott's speech was a "puerile attack on 'Nimbyism'" and said in a statement: "Those of us campaigning against inappropriately sited onshore wind turbine proposals believe that the current gold-rush to wind represents a scandalous scam against the British taxpayer. "Nawag believes there should be a much more balanced renewable energy policy with a significant increase in Government and private industry investment in renewable sources other than wind including solar, wave and tidal power." Whoever took ‘2 Jags Prescott’ and his ill thought out, incoherent arguments seriously? The following is much more to the point…. ‘The anti-wind farm National Alliance of Wind Farm Action Groups (Nawag) said Mr Prescott’s speech was a “puerile attack on ‘Nimbyism’” and said in a statement: “Those of us campaigning against inappropriately sited onshore wind turbine proposals believe that the current gold-rush to wind represents a scandalous scam against the British taxpayer.

“Nawag believes there should be a much more balanced renewable energy policy with a significant increase in Government and private industry investment in renewable sources other than wind including solar, wave and tidal power.”

]]> By: Xena http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-352 Xena Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:59:44 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-352 The last one especially is an excellent quote. Thanks for that The last one especially is an excellent quote.

Thanks for that

]]> By: Xena http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-351 Xena Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:56:14 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-351 I have to quote Ecotricity's website as I think you may have misunderstood the policy "We adhere rigorously to our own Good Neighbour policy which means that if we cannot be certain a turbine will not adversely impact it’s neighbours, we won’t proceed." What they mean I believe is that they are researched thoroughly to ensure no danger to people or wildlife, no shadow flicker, minimal noise... etc... I have to quote Ecotricity’s website as I think you may have misunderstood the policy
“We adhere rigorously to our own Good Neighbour policy which means that if we cannot be certain a turbine will not adversely impact it’s neighbours, we won’t proceed.”
What they mean I believe is that they are researched thoroughly to ensure no danger to people or wildlife, no shadow flicker, minimal noise… etc…

]]> By: terraverde http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-350 terraverde Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:08:21 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-350 “We cannot let the squires and the gentry stop us meeting our moral obligation to pass this world on in a better state to our children and our children's children.” and "We see ambitious and worthy wind turbine applications defeated by a vocal minority of landowners and nimbys. They hire professional consultants to delay, obstruct and ultimately defeat these applications. "It's all very well arguing that a wind turbine might spoil the chocolate box view for a few homeowners. But did these same people campaign against the mobile phone masts that allow them to call locals to organize their protests? Did they moan about the pylons that bring electricity to their hamlets to power their computers that sent out emails to lobby the councils against wind farm applications? Of course they didn't! They accepted them because they were necessary." <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/prescott-attacks-windpower-nimbys-1805619.html" rel="nofollow">John Prescott - The Independant</a> “We cannot let the squires and the gentry stop us meeting our moral obligation to pass this world on in a better state to our children and our children’s children.”

and

“We see ambitious and worthy wind turbine applications defeated by a vocal minority of landowners and nimbys. They hire professional consultants to delay, obstruct and ultimately defeat these applications.

“It’s all very well arguing that a wind turbine might spoil the chocolate box view for a few homeowners. But did these same people campaign against the mobile phone masts that allow them to call locals to organize their protests? Did they moan about the pylons that bring electricity to their hamlets to power their computers that sent out emails to lobby the councils against wind farm applications? Of course they didn’t! They accepted them because they were necessary.”

John Prescott – The Independant

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-349 rotator Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:46:39 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-349 You are playing with the word 'neighbour', that is why I referred to the dictionary definition. Many of the 200 plus objectors are the neighbours. Not one is in favour - except two landowners who will profit greatly. If you are talking about a wider neighbourhood then Ecotricity should have made this clear in the progress report. They do not appear to empathise with the concerns of the immediate neighbourhood otherwise they would never have considered the Stinchcombe area as a suitable location. They should therefore change their wording - if words are to have any meaning. You are playing with the word ‘neighbour’, that is why I referred to the dictionary definition. Many of the 200 plus objectors are the neighbours. Not one is in favour – except two landowners who will profit greatly. If you are talking about a wider neighbourhood then Ecotricity should have made this clear in the progress report. They do not appear to empathise with the concerns of the immediate neighbourhood otherwise they would never have considered the Stinchcombe area as a suitable location. They should therefore change their wording – if words are to have any meaning.

]]> By: TR http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-348 TR Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:12:31 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-348 rotator, the whole point of this is to see what the majority of stroud wants. 200+ is not the majority. As I've mentioned in comments in the "have your say" post democracy isn't about the volume of the voice, isn't about the volume of votes. From what I can see, the Stroud 5050 campaign is an extension of the Good Neighbour policy. Ecotricity is looking to see whether Stroud is as green as it prides itself on being. rotator, the whole point of this is to see what the majority of stroud wants. 200+ is not the majority. As I’ve mentioned in comments in the “have your say” post democracy isn’t about the volume of the voice, isn’t about the volume of votes.

From what I can see, the Stroud 5050 campaign is an extension of the Good Neighbour policy. Ecotricity is looking to see whether Stroud is as green as it prides itself on being.

]]> By: Dave Angel http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Dave Angel Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:57:44 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-347 I'm guessing what they mean by 'Good Neighbour' is that it wont cause any problems .. ie. all issues will be looked at in the planning application ie. noise, shadow flicker, birds, bats. If they're not satisfied with what they find from their indepth studies they wont go ahead. I’m guessing what they mean by ‘Good Neighbour’ is that it wont cause any problems .. ie. all issues will be looked at in the planning application ie. noise, shadow flicker, birds, bats. If they’re not satisfied with what they find from their indepth studies they wont go ahead.

]]> By: rotator http://blog.stroud5050.org/2009/10/19/thanks-for-all-the-comments-one-thing-though/comment-page-1/#comment-341 rotator Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:48:33 +0000 http://blog.stroud5050.org/?p=80#comment-341 In Ecotricity's Progress Report 2008 the following appears. "We attribute our planning success in large part to our Good Neighbour policy through which we only commit to build turbines where we can be sure they will be good neighbours throughout their lifetime. If we can’t be sure, we walk away." Since virtually all the near (and not so near) neighbours of the proposed wind farm in the Stinchcombe area are opposed (see the 200+ objections on the Planning website) can you be as good as your word and walk away please? Since the dictionary definition of "neighbour" is "a person (or thing) who lives near or next to another" it seems quite clear cut to me, with no wriggle room whatsoever. In Ecotricity’s Progress Report 2008 the following appears. “We attribute our planning success in large part to our Good Neighbour policy through which we only commit to build turbines where we can be sure they will be good neighbours throughout their lifetime. If we can’t be sure, we walk away.” Since virtually all the near (and not so near) neighbours of the proposed wind farm in the Stinchcombe area are opposed (see the 200+ objections on the Planning website) can you be as good as your word and walk away please? Since the dictionary definition of “neighbour” is “a person (or thing) who lives near or next to another” it seems quite clear cut to me, with no wriggle room whatsoever.

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